Today 500+ angry comments were posted on the Charlotte Observer website following backlash from Wealthy White Citizens (Ballantyne) who refused to allow an Affordable Housing community to be constructed in their area of the city.
This helps to prove Charlotte is indeed one of America's most Racist cities.
Please don't let the recent election of Charlotte's Black Mayor Anthony Foxx (Democrat) fool you.
Anthony Foxx is a Token Black Politician thus the reason for his election.
Charlotte's White citizens knew he would do absolutely NOTHING to change things.
In fact Foxx was a lesser threat to changing Charlotte's "Good Ole' Boy" system than his White, Republican opposition John Lassiter.
That's why Anthony Foxx was elected!
While on the campaign trail Foxx promised to NO longer build all of Charlotte's Affordable Housing in Poverty Stricken areas, but after hearing backlash from Ballantyne's Wealthy White citizens (many of whom haven't seen a Tax Increase in 6 years while Blacks have!), Mayor Foxx and other Weak City Leaders decided to abort this plan.
Of course I couldn't copy and paste 500+ comments however, I wanted you to read some of the ones I included in this post.
The tone of those comments prove Charlotte-Mecklenburg, North Carolina has a long way to go in improving Race Relations and explain why Charlotte's Public Schools are extremely Segregated.
What are Charlotte's Black Leaders doing about this crisis?
NOTHING!
They are too afraid.
Which is why I NEVER vote for Charlotte's Black Politicians.
By the way since Democrats rule Charlotte you can blame them for all of this Racism.
If your Black or Hispanic DON'T MOVE TO CHARLOTTE, NC!
Unless your name is Barack Obama or Eric Holder, you won't be welcome.
"Blacks get back!"
Isn't this 2010? What a shame and disgrace.
Now Check out Anthony Foxx's lying Mayoral campaign video ("Fairness & Opportunity") and those controversial comments from the Charlotte Observer website below.
GeorgeJefferson wrote on 02/23/2010 02:48:47 PM:
Well, we're movin on back....to the crack
To a deluxe apartment in Double Oaks
Yeah, we're movin on back....to the crack
Somebody ate our piece of the pie.
Beans don't burn on the golf course
Beans don't burn at the club.
Ain't never gonna get a chance know
To eat at the Fox and Hounds Pub
Well, we're movin on back....to the crack
To a deluxe apartment in Double Oaks
Yeah, we're movin on back....to the crack
CHA ate our piece of the pie!!!!!!!!
kudzu wrote on 02/23/2010 12:15:17 PM:
Watch the "white flight"...LOL!!!
koufy wrote on 02/23/2010 12:13:32 PM:
Ballantyne 1 Section 8,Thugs,Ghetto 0
FoD wrote on 02/23/2010 12:24:40 PM:
Replying to Ribbit (02/23/2010 12:10:34 PM):
"Maybe I am misunderstanding your comment, but the picture above of the 300+ people who showed up for the meeting are by far NOT all white and I know some of them and can tell you they are not all wealthy. This community is a lot more than Ballantyne Country Club.":
89% of the residents of the area under discussion are White.
4% are Black, 4% are Asian and the rest are varied.
FoD wrote on 02/23/2010 02:48:41 PM:
Replying to peregrino (02/23/2010 02:25:18 PM):
"Impressive use of data; do you subscribe to Prizm? Of course, data hardly outmatch "Oh, yeah?!!" as a debating point in these fora.":
No - sure don't. Just found a site with very reliable data.
And you're certainly right - "Data" just doesn't run well in a head to head debate with "Oh, yeah"!
steelie69 wrote on 02/23/2010 02:48:27 PM:
Comon, people. Everyone knows that section 8 housing residents never attract or conduct criminal activity. That's just a myth. They are all hard-working god-fearing christians.
apoIIo21 wrote on 02/23/2010 02:47:17 PM:
I suppose you Yuppies and DINKS didn't like "us Westsiders" blocking the entrance your farce of a project, the Whitewater Center, you know, the NON_Profit that still owes the County and City over $7 million dollars? That joke of a project WE didn't want in our backyard but got it anyway?
Your pleas are falling on deaf ears over here and we're laughing our a sses off.
conas wrote on 02/23/2010 02:43:48 PM:
Replying to ebowman29 (02/23/2010 02:29:35 PM):
""It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne."
Except, its 86, not twenty six. And no one is saying this is the cause of destruction. What is does do is set a precedence for even MORE unnecessary development for this area, and an element of...":
What's wrong with a bus stop? Seems like it would be a benefit.
peregrino wrote on 02/23/2010 02:39:33 PM:
The whole point of a developer partnership is to get some federal guaranteed support for a development. I guess the local construction industry is doing fine without support.
peregrino wrote on 02/23/2010 02:38:53 PM:
Replying to ebowman29 (02/23/2010 02:29:35 PM):
""It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne."
Except, its 86, not twenty six. And no one is saying this is the cause of destruction. What is does do is set a precedence for even MORE unnecessary development for this area, and an element of...":
Read the article. Only 26 of the units were designated for <$20K (30% of the area's median income). "Affordable" is a misnomer. The rest of the property is designated for people earning 60% of the median income--which actually puts them close to the median income for Charlotte. The whole point of a developer partnership.
apoIIo21 wrote on 02/23/2010 02:35:15 PM:
Replying to ebowman29 (02/23/2010 02:29:35 PM):
""It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne."
Except, its 86, not twenty six. And no one is saying this is the cause of destruction. What is does do is set a precedence for even MORE unnecessary development for this area, and an element of...":
when you get the bus stop, low lifes, crime and fast food joints out of my neighborhood, we'll join your fight, otherwise, I say plop 'em down right at your front door.
ebowman29 wrote on 02/23/2010 02:29:35 PM:
"It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne."
Except, its 86, not twenty six. And no one is saying this is the cause of destruction. What is does do is set a precedence for even MORE unnecessary development for this area, and an element of neighborhood it brings in... extending the CATs line, throwing up more fast food restaurants, and even MORE housing. WE DON'T NEED IT. I don't want a freaking bus stop in front of my house.
peregrino wrote on 02/23/2010 02:25:18 PM:
Replying to FoD (02/23/2010 12:51:10 PM):
"Of the 33,905 residents of that area, 3.3% have income below the Poverty Level (four-person family unit with two children, the 2008 poverty threshold is $21,834).
That means Ballantyne ALREADY has 1,118 residents making less than poverty wages.
We're talking 86 housing...":
Impressive use of data; do you subscribe to Prizm? Of course, data hardly outmatch "Oh, yeah?!!" as a debating point in these fora.
david95 wrote on 02/23/2010 02:19:19 PM:
I hope GeoBusshh doesn't own a plane.
FoD wrote on 02/23/2010 02:01:48 PM:
Replying to Ribbit (02/23/2010 01:35:33 PM):
"No, not "the destruction of Ballantyne" but I don't think that is the true concern by the commumity. And the point is, there is affordable housing if you want to pay your OWN legally earned and taxed wages for it.":
What makes you think those 1,100 people are NOT getting some kind of assistance?
And the "reasons" given for "why not" in Ballantyne are as many and varied as were the "reasons" for the invasion of Iraq. This one gets blown out of the water, make up another one.
NIMBY - simple as that
BofAisSatan wrote on 02/23/2010 01:43:03 PM:
Hate..Hate..Hate..It bores me and takes up all of my time! I'd go back to Palm Springs if those damm Kardashians didn't take up all of my time when I go out there.
What's a devil to do for a little R&R around here. Oh, well off to Scorpios!!
Tootles-
BofAisSatan wrote on 02/23/2010 01:36:34 PM:
BofAisSatan's comment is abusive and has been removed.
david95 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:36:00 PM:
Replying to DidHeReallySayThat (02/23/2010 01:30:11 PM):
"The sad thing is GeoWBussh isn't wrong.":
Wouldn't know. His hatred is so far out there, I refuse to read it. If he had something to say, and actually wanted people to read it, he should approach it differently. He may be right, but does it matter if nobody reads it?
Ribbit wrote on 02/23/2010 01:35:33 PM:
Replying to FoD (02/23/2010 01:26:44 PM):
"It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne.":
No, not "the destruction of Ballantyne" but I don't think that is the true concern by the commumity. And the point is, there is affordable housing if you want to pay your OWN legally earned and taxed wages for it.
apoIIo21 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:27:51 PM:
Replying to JT_Lancer (02/23/2010 01:19:08 PM):
"In other words, the govt has a right to STEAL money from those who earned it (at the expense of the earner's families) in order to subsidize the housing of those who DIDN'T earn it?":
Do you post rhetorical questions just to read your own type?
You already know the answer to your own question. If not, you'll need to go back and take government 101 again.
DidHeReallySayThat wrote on 02/23/2010 01:26:47 PM:
I still would like to have seen the faces of the Ballantynians when this was first announced elbow29.
I'm still laughing.
FoD wrote on 02/23/2010 01:26:44 PM:
Replying to Ribbit (02/23/2010 01:02:11 PM):
"If there are already 1,118 residents making less than poverty wages living in the area and they can afford to live there without the government's monitary help, doesn't that prove that there is already affordable housing in the area?":
It proves that 26 more housing units are not gonna cause the destruction of Ballantyne.
ebowman29 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:23:36 PM:
Replying to DidHeReallySayThat (02/23/2010 01:20:55 PM):
"LMAO! I'll bet the CHA pulls out of the Ballantyne deal... hahahaha...
Imagine the uproar of property taxpayers... I'm glad I don't live in Charlotte!
I couldn't stop laughing for an hour after hearing this initially. I could only imagine the looks on the faces of the Ballantynians......":
Ummm... they already did, did you just ignore the headline and entire article so you could post that drivel? Get a life and maybe a be a little more concerned about your OWN city than ours.
JT_Lancer wrote on 02/23/2010 01:23:24 PM:
Why is it that stealing is OK when the government does it, but, somehow, its frowned upon when private citizens do the same exact thing?
ebowman29 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:20:59 PM:
Replying to Berewicker (02/23/2010 11:04:19 AM):
""There are too many people, and too few human beings". ~Robert Zend
There are too many rich people in Ballantyn, and too few human beings...IMAO
Somebody needs to give these Ballantyn folks a tour of the section 8 housing they don't know..please visit this section 8 apartment complex...":
Coming from a person who lives in Berewick (I assume), also a community that organized, pickted, and fought against (AND WON) a low-income devleopment in their neighbor JUST LAST YEAR??? Talk about hyprocritical. I'm not rich by any means and I live in Ballantyne. Just because I don't want government-subsidized housing.
DidHeReallySayThat wrote on 02/23/2010 01:20:55 PM:
LMAO! I'll bet the CHA pulls out of the Ballantyne deal... hahahaha...
Imagine the uproar of property taxpayers... I'm glad I don't live in Charlotte!
I couldn't stop laughing for an hour after hearing this initially. I could only imagine the looks on the faces of the Ballantynians... lol.
ChileG wrote on 02/23/2010 01:20:21 PM:
Robert Zend also said he has a problem for every solution.
JT_Lancer wrote on 02/23/2010 01:19:08 PM:
Replying to apoIIo21 (02/23/2010 01:17:14 PM):
"Ballentyne will be worse off if the developer puts "affordable housing " on the property vs. the government.
We all pay taxes, we all subsidize things we don't like and this is one of those some don't like.
Ballentyne is no different than any other part of the city/county.":
In other words, the govt has a right to STEAL money from those who earned it (at the expense of the earner's families) in order to subsidize the housing of those who DIDN'T earn it?
apoIIo21 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:17:14 PM:
Replying to JT_Lancer (02/23/2010 01:14:09 PM):
"In other words, the govt has a right to STEAL money from those who earned it (at the expense of the earner's families) in order to subsidize the housing of those who DIDN'T earn it.":
Ballentyne will be worse off if the developer puts "affordable housing " on the property vs. the government.
We all pay taxes, we all subsidize things we don't like and this is one of those some don't like.
Ballentyne is no different than any other part of the city/county.
JT_Lancer wrote on 02/23/2010 01:14:09 PM:
Replying to apoIIo21 (02/23/2010 01:08:19 PM):
"I'm an uanffiliated voter. Wouldn't be caught dead subscribing to either party.
Yes, YOU have a right to live where YOU want, but the government and developers also have a RIGHT to put low cost housing where THEY want.":
In other words, the govt has a right to STEAL money from those who earned it (at the expense of the earner's families) in order to subsidize the housing of those who DIDN'T earn it.
therestofthestory wrote on 02/23/2010 01:14:05 PM:
Replying to Berewicker (02/23/2010 11:04:19 AM):
""There are too many people, and too few human beings". ~Robert Zend
There are too many rich people in Ballantyn, and too few human beings...IMAO
Somebody needs to give these Ballantyn folks a tour of the section 8 housing they don't know..please visit this section 8 apartment complex...":
Hop over to the apartment ratings web site and it has a 17% rating. The comments are not too encouraging.
apoIIo21 wrote on 02/23/2010 01:08:19 PM:
Replying to sunshine_76 (02/23/2010 12:39:41 PM):
"No, I'm not any more special than anyone else, but I still have a right to live where I want to live - which is away from public housing! It seems like on these forums unless you're a raging liberal Democrat you are completely chastized - I can't even mention that I'm a Christian without other...":
I'm an uanffiliated voter. Wouldn't be caught dead subscribing to either party.
Yes, YOU have a right to live where YOU want, but the government and developers also have a RIGHT to put low cost housing where THEY want.
ChileG wrote on 02/23/2010 01:03:08 PM:
Replying to Pier1211 (02/23/2010 12:57:52 PM):
"Oh pleeeeeeze, give Ballentyne folks their share of section 8 housing. Pleeeeeeaaze!":
if we want instances of class warfare, here it is.
Ribbit wrote on 02/23/2010 01:02:11 PM:
Replying to FoD (02/23/2010 12:51:10 PM):
"Of the 33,905 residents of that area, 3.3% have income below the Poverty Level (four-person family unit with two children, the 2008 poverty threshold is $21,834).
That means Ballantyne ALREADY has 1,118 residents making less than poverty wages.
We're talking 86 housing...":
If there are already 1,118 residents making less than poverty wages living in the area and they can afford to live there without the government's monitary help, doesn't that prove that there is already affordable housing in the area?
Ribbit wrote on 02/23/2010 12:58:16 PM:
Replying to FoD (02/23/2010 12:24:40 PM):
"89% of the residents of the area under discussion are White.
4% are Black, 4% are Asian and the rest are varied.":
Intersting. I'm not sure where you got those stats or what year they are from, but this link http://apps.cms.k12.nc.us/departments/instrAccountability/schlProfile05/profiles.asp is the report on Community House Middle School which would serve that particular piece of land (which is, by the way, extreamly overcrowded). It states that 67.3% of the 2008 student population was white, 12.5% African American, 8.5% Asian, 8.7% Hispanic, .4% American Indian and 2.6% multi-racial.
Pier1211 wrote on 02/23/2010 12:57:52 PM:
Oh pleeeeeeze, give Ballentyne folks their share of section 8 housing. Pleeeeeeaaze!
Spacegrass wrote on 02/23/2010 12:57:46 PM:
I know! I know!
Let's build secret bunkers underground for all the poor people to live in! And they can dig tunnels to get back and forth to work and all their secret poor people meetings.
You're welcome.
Lamont_Cranston wrote on 02/23/2010 12:54:14 PM:
Replying to CMS_educator (02/23/2010 08:51:54 AM):
"Every man is born equal. Not every man will end up equal.":
A more near correct statement is "Every man is born equally" - male sex cell and/female sex cell fertilization, gestation, and birth. Men are not born equal - to be so would mean that they each possesses the same talents, flaws, opportunities and etc...
FoD wrote on 02/23/2010 12:51:10 PM:
Of the 33,905 residents of that area, 3.3% have income below the Poverty Level (four-person family unit with two children, the 2008 poverty threshold is $21,834).
That means Ballantyne ALREADY has 1,118 residents making less than poverty wages.
We're talking 86 housing units out of a total of more than 16,700 existing housing units - and of those 86, only 26 are reserved for those making less than $29,000 a year.
ShepherdDA wrote on 02/23/2010 12:44:04 PM:
Wonder if Mayor Foxx will put his and his neighbors home values and quality of life where his mouth is and offer up his neighborhood for a little social experimentation? Not holding my breath. Let's take advantage of all the foreclosed properties all over the county and help those that are really trying to help themselves get into a real house rather than an apartment. This way they can be spread out all over the county and not just clustered in low income appartment blocks in any one are.
ebowman29 wrote on 02/23/2010 12:42:02 PM:
Fod-
Again, there is a difference between "low-income" housing and government subsidized housing. I have no problem with people who make a lower wage living in my neighborhood AS LONG AS THEY WORK FOR A LIVING AND CAN PAY FOR IT WITHOUT MY TAX DOLLARS. My point is, there is ALREADY affordable and lower-income housing available in Ballantyne that people who are making the level of income can afford.
ChileG wrote on 02/23/2010 12:41:45 PM:
Replying to CMS_educator (02/23/2010 12:28:55 PM):
"The only class warfare I have seen have been the insults hurled from outside of Ballantyne towards those who have an (in)vested interest there.":
by people who also would not want section-8 housing built in their neighborhoods.
sunshine_76 wrote on 02/23/2010 12:39:41 PM:
Replying to apoIIo21 (02/23/2010 11:23:06 AM):
"Soooo...you're special why?":
No, I'm not any more special than anyone else, but I still have a right to live where I want to live - which is away from public housing! It seems like on these forums unless you're a raging liberal Democrat you are completely chastized - I can't even mention that I'm a Christian without other posters going nuts!
justask wrote on 02/23/2010 12:32:33 PM:
You could buy a lot of Bus ticket's to San Francisco with a whole lot less money. Or even Atlanta where they also encourage entitlement.
Charlotte Citizens Protest Against Charlotte Affordable
Housing Project
The meeting started inside while people were still lining up outside. Hundreds showed up to hear more about a proposed public housing complex in the Ballantyne area. One by one, they fired questions and comments at the developers, Republic Development Group:
"What experience do you have creating something like this?"
"Can you not find a more suitable place than what is the southern gateway to our community?"
"Where I'm coming from is I don't want it here. My house is over one million dollars and I don't want the crap next to me."
The project took a hit Monday afternoon when the Charlotte Housing Authority issued a statement that it would not participate in the mixed income housing development. "Questions about certain aspects of the project's structure, including its density (the total number of apartment units relative to the cost of the land) and funding, prompted our decision," said Jennifer Gallman with the Housing Authority.
"We keep going," said Stuart Proffitt of Republic Development. Proffitt says he still hopes to build the 86 unit complex with another affordable housing developer. A representative from the Crosland Company told News Channel 36 the developer has asked if Crosland would manage the property if it were approved.
One man, who asked not to be identified, said he believed this was a case of "not in my backyard." "I live on the West side and this will be pushed to some other part of town," he said.
But opponents say that's not the case. They point to the fact that the proposed site, south of Ballantyne, off of Johnston Road, has no easy access to public sidewalks, little public transportation and already overcrowded schools.
Cynthia Jennings lives in the Ballantyne area. "People who live in low income housing want the same thing we all do. A nice place to live for their families. But the way the developer came in, through the back door, was sneaky and shady," she said.
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